Wednesday, August 13, 2008

CASEY TO SPEAK IN DENVER


It's official. Senator Bob Casey will address the Democratic National Convention on Tuesday, August 26th. Accordinf to ABC News, "The decision to give Sen. Casey a featured speaking spot is part of a broader effort on the part of the Democrats to broaden the party's appeal on abortion. "


ANC also noted the changes in the Platform which offered some modest outreach to pro-life voters. ABC reports that: Democrats consulted with the Rev. Jim Wallis and others on how to include language in the platform which would signal the party's commitment to reducing the incidence of abortion.


The Democratic platform adopted this past Saturday in Pittsburgh, Pa., pledges pre- and post-natal health care, income support, and adoption programs to support those women who make the decision to have a child.


"The language in the platform is a real step forward," said Wallis on a Tuesday conference call with reporters. "For those women who want to take the child to term, it strongly supports that choice, and provides necessary support."


The Democratic platform was also praised on Tuesday's call by Pepperdine Law Prof. Douglas Kmiec. Kmiec, an Obama supporter who served as constitutional legal counsel to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush , called the platform an "historic moment that does a lot for Democrats, Catholics, and women."

20 comments:

Castellanus said...

One of the prevention methods supported by Democrats is greater availability of birth control/artificial contraceptives, including for teens who can get them without parental notification. How is this consistent with Catholic teaching against artificial contraception as well as the rights of parents?

Anonymous said...

Hi all,
Maybe someone can explain this to me: I see the Democrat party always saying that they are the party of the poor and the oppressed. And yet, they are also the party of killing babies in the womb. now they are on the verge of nominating a man who voted against protecting those who survived abortion!

Doesn't this every make you wonder about their advocacy on other issues? If they can be this cruel to the weakest among us, why are they such advocates in the other areas? Are they really for the poor and the oppressed? Because is they really were, it seems to be they would be totally against abortion.

Philothea

The Castigator said...

Hello Castellanus, guess what? Nothing in the Democratic Party is consistent with Catholic teaching. And neither is anything in Obama's platform. You cannot be so far left into the complete world of wacko and be out of step with the Democrats or Obama.

You aren't going to convince these "catholics" of anything. They are Marxists first and Catholic last. Your telling them that Obama's beliefs aren't consistent with Catholicism isn't more than water off a duck's back.

Katherine said...

I see the Democrat party always saying...

No you don't, Philothea. There is no such organization as the 'Democrat Party,' regardless of how often you have heard Rush say this. It is the "Democratic Party". If you can't even get the name correct, it is doubtful anything else you have to say is an objective observation.

Anonymous said...

Now that I have corrected my mistake, can you answer my question?

Hi all,
Maybe someone can explain this to me: I see the Democratic Party always saying that they are the party of the poor and the oppressed. And yet, they are also the party of killing babies in the womb. Now they are on the verge of nominating a man who voted against protecting those who survived abortion!

Doesn't this every make you wonder about their advocacy on other issues? If they can be this cruel to the weakest among us, why are they such advocates in the other areas? Are they really for the poor and the oppressed? Because is they really were, it seems to be they would be totally against abortion.

Philothea

Katherine said...

Philothea,

Now that you have withdrawn your polemical terminology, I certainly will treat it as an honest question.

You are correct that the Democratic Party, particularly its liberal wing, has long been the stronger defender of the poor and oppressed in our society. Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, the National Labor Realtions Act, the Pure Food and Drug Act, bank deposit insurance, Disability Insurance, Medicare and Medicaid, Pell grants, school lunches, the Civil Rights act, the Voting Rights Act, the Americans with Disabilities Act, home heating assistance for the low income elderly, meals on wheels, consumer protection, workplace health and safety, mine safety, Black Lung benefits, etc. It is quite a long list of important initiatives, which the conservatives fought at every turn.

Regretably, most (but not all) Democrats are pro-choice. They do not advocate killing babies in the womb. Senator Obama, for example, has never once it his life has recommended anyone have an abortion.

However, Senator Obama disagrees with your assertion that women who have an abortion are cruel and heartless women. He sees them as women in desparate situations.

Personally, I stand in the middle between you and Obama. I would never publiclly proclaim women who have abortions as cruel. However, I think we as a society need BOTH more social support for women in crisis pregnancies AND laws protecting the unborn. I will be the first to admit the Republican tend to be better on the later, while I find the Democrats better on the former.

Anonymous said...

Katherine,
You wrote: However, Senator Obama disagrees with your assertion that women who have an abortion are cruel and heartless women. He sees them as women in desparate situations.

Where did I assert this?

Philothea

Anonymous said...

Katherine,
You seemed to have missed the point of my question, which was to wonder why the advocacy for the availability of abortion on the part of Democrats didn't give Democratic Party supporters pause.

Why this incredible drive to decimate the population? Why this drive to reduce the number of poor and minority people by ensuring that abortion would be easier than having the child and having the government pay for it? Why the drive to ensure that sexual activity is promoted in the public schools?

Philothea

Anonymous said...

Katherine,
Why is calling the party the Democrat Party instead of the Democratic Party polemical terminology?

And wy do you think that I listen to Rush Limbaugh? Do you think that the only way a person could possibly disagree with you is by listening to him?

Philothea

Katherine said...

Where did I assert this?
Philothea


Your words: "If they can be this cruel to the weakest among us"

You seemed to have missed the point of my question, which was to wonder why the advocacy for the availability of abortion on the part of Democrats didn't give Democratic Party supporters pause.

It gives this Democrat pause and more. Even Senator Obama has said as much. Ypu are correct that the Democratic Party is not where we would hope on the issue of abortion and the Republican Party is not where we would hope on the issue of the poor and the oppressed.

Why the drive to ensure that sexual activity is promoted in the public schools?

I only know of one incident of students caught having sex in school and in this case the boy's mother was a Republican committeewoman.

Castellanus said...

I only know of one incident of students caught having sex in school and in this case the boy's mother was a Republican committeewoman.

And this is relevant how? If I have a child that fails to uphold the Catholic beliefs that I taught him am I then a hypocrite? If a priest fails to live up to his vows are the vows themeselves therefore wrong. If John McCain has an affair that is wrong. But John McCain is not advocating that adultery become legal either.

the Republican Party is not where we would hope on the issue of the poor and the oppressed.

Could you provide examples of where in your opinion the Party fails the poor and oppressed? Can you show any specific legislation that oppresses people.

Anonymous said...

Katherine,
You wrote: Your words: "If they can be this cruel to the weakest among us"

You seem to be having a little bit of difficulty with English grammar. It is quite obvious that those whom I was calling cruel was those in the Democratic Party.

Wow, and you thought my calling it the Democrat Party was polemical!

Philothea

Anonymous said...

Katherine,
You wrote: Why the drive to ensure that sexual activity is promoted in the public schools?

I only know of one incident of students caught having sex in school and in this case the boy's mother was a Republican committeewoman.

Ahh, you caught me! I should have written: why the drive to ensure that promotion occurs in our public schools of sexual activity?

Philothea

Anonymous said...

Katherine,
You wrote: Senator Obama, for example, has never once it his life has recommended anyone have an abortion.

I would sat that this is a hasty generalization (how on earth do you know he has never recommended...?), esp considering that he said that if he wouldn't want his daughters "punished" for a mistake.

And that whole infanticide issue: hey, even NARAL thought the bill was ok, I mean, I never even heard of someone more pro-abortion than NARAL!

Philothea

Katherine said...

Philothea,
You have a strange and nonsensical position, except to promote your political candidate. It is not cruel to actual abort a baby but it is cruel to not support that action but not support criminalizing these women.

Philothea, it is too bad you have put politics ahead of your faith.

Max said...

Katherine said:

Philothea, it is too bad you have put politics ahead of your faith.


Ditto to you Katherine.

Anonymous said...

Katherine,
Hooo, boy, you must be desperate! What you wrote was basically incomprehensible, except for the part about my putting my politics ahead of my faith.

I am not sure how you come to that conclusion, since the reason I am against Obama is that he is very pro-abortion, rated 100% by NARAL. Is being against abortion against my faith? I am Catholic, and the Catholic Church teaches that abortion is intrinsically wrong.

Philothea

MissPriss said...

Miss Priss thinks that by trotting out a pro-abortion "Catholic" politican as his vice presidential nominee, one who defaces the Catholic name and commits sacrilege by taking the Eucharist, Obama has made a serious strategic mistake. Obama will now face the angry and resistant core of Catholics, who are tiring of the attempts by career politicians like Joe Biden, John Kerry and Ted Kennedy to use their Catholic heritage to normalize the perception of abortion among American Catholics.

Bob said...

politicans that support abortion are cooperating in murder, and women that murder their babies to hide their sexual immorality are murdering sluts.

Anonymous said...

Obama has made a serious strategic mistake. Obama will now face the angry and resistant core of Catholics

MissPrissy has been dipping into the Scotch bottle a little too much.

McCain has been keeping those wacko elements at arms-length, and with good reason. The 'angry and resistant core' of hard-right extremists are hurting not helping McCain and he knows it.