tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post692990251163070168..comments2023-10-09T09:36:13.099-04:00Comments on CATHOLICS FOR OBAMA BIDEN: EWTN: "McCain is Not Pro-Life"Katherinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13687197922675722032noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-63982126541957181692008-11-03T03:25:00.000-05:002008-11-03T03:25:00.000-05:00"Assault Weapons Ban: Support legislation to ban a..."Assault Weapons Ban: Support legislation to ban assault weapons."<BR/><BR/>Check this out folks. The USCCB wants to infringe our right to bear arms. Whose side are they on anyway? And of course Obama Catholics second that motion.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for pointing that out Sean you little weenie lapdog.Rustler45https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889162663438444671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-8477313354147458442008-11-01T10:34:00.000-04:002008-11-01T10:34:00.000-04:00Good point. EWTN shot itself in the foot in their...Good point. EWTN shot itself in the foot in their political gamesmanship. The idea that Rhonda would call it a lie when the actual evidence is right here shows how desparate the Republicans are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-23024648685593119172008-10-31T17:36:00.000-04:002008-10-31T17:36:00.000-04:00Rhonda --This is why McCain is losing the Catholic...Rhonda --<BR/><BR/>This is why McCain is losing the Catholic vote and even 1/3 of pro-life voters say they are voting for Obama. <BR/><BR/>Of course EWTN is horrified. During the primaries, they had their favorites so they presented a statement that McCain was not consistent with Catholic principles to tear him down. Now they are horrified that AN ACTUAL CLIP of theirs is being used in the general election.<BR/><BR/>Why doesn't EWTN come clean and say that during the primaries, what they broadcast was neither "new reporting" nor "Catholic truth" but political propaganda to be used against McCain in the primary. <BR/><BR/>How you can call AN ACTUAL VIDEO CLIP a lie only degrades you and your views. Who can trust you Rhonda, when you make statements like that? We have the facts right here. Watch the video clip.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-47973059268918515852008-10-31T11:57:00.000-04:002008-10-31T11:57:00.000-04:00You need to check out what you post on your web si...You need to check out what you post on your web site. I was so upset when I saw this on another website, I called EWTN, the were horrified. Also you might want to check out JohnMcCain.com he is sure alot more prolife than any candidate we have had as long as I can remember(and I am over 50) But you are lying about EWTN, but we will all still pray for you. JESUS AND MARY SAVE SOULSrhondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15870383421157442866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-31014989133019873522008-10-30T00:13:00.000-04:002008-10-30T00:13:00.000-04:00Unlike so many conservatives, I'm not looking for ...<I>Unlike so many conservatives, I'm not looking for what issue "trumps" another. As Catholics, we are not allowed to disregard even a lesser priority for a greater (just as Christ sought the one lost sheep). We are called, as best we can, to stand for ALL of these concerns. I do not disregard the unborn the way many conservatives disregard the Church's position on peace and economic justice.</I><BR/><BR/>Sean,<BR/><BR/>You didn't answer my question. If Obama was going to sign into law the death sentence for people in wheelchairs, would you still vote for him? He has promised that his first priority as potus is to sign this into law. That is his <B> first priority.</B> The economy and health care are not his priority. The death of infants is. <BR/><BR/>What good is having perfect health care and a good economy if a group of people are not going to be given the opportunity to be a part of the perfect health care or good economy? This is selfishness at its greatest. <BR/><BR/>You say you don't disregard the unborn but when you support Obama you do. There is no way you can tell me that supporting Obama is not supporting the death of infants. He has promised to sign into law the FOCA. Have you read this? If not, I urge you too. Remember, this is his <B>first priority</B><BR/><BR/>As for your claim that as catholics we are not called to disregard a lesser good for a greater one I disagree. As pointed out the best health care and economy can hardly be good for those that have been killed. Many Bishops and priests have spoken and said we cannot support pro abortion candidates.<BR/><BR/>McCain hasn't promised to sign any FOCA and he believes that Roe VS. Wade was a bad law. He gives more rights to the unborn that Obama does. While I agree that he is not fully inline with Catholic teaching, he certainly is much closer to it than Obama and therefore the lesser of two evils.Theresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04866840456840793793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-44292793651023725362008-10-29T22:45:00.000-04:002008-10-29T22:45:00.000-04:00Therese,First of all, thank you for the admission ...Therese,<BR/><BR/>First of all, thank you for the admission that your original list of Catholic concerns was lacking. I'm glad I could provide you with a fuller listing, though it is not my list but the Catholic bishops'.<BR/><BR/>Unlike so many conservatives, I'm not looking for what issue "trumps" another. As Catholics, we are not allowed to disregard even a lesser priority for a greater (just as Christ sought the one lost sheep). We are called, as best we can, to stand for ALL of these concerns. I do not disregard the unborn the way many conservatives disregard the Church's position on peace and economic justice. <BR/><BR/>You are right that we need to educate the public about the unborn. Neither McCain nor Obama hold that a baby's right to life is equal to the rights of those that are born.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-89684581515459969392008-10-29T15:55:00.000-04:002008-10-29T15:55:00.000-04:00nice long list you have there Sean. It has made me...nice long list you have there Sean. It has made me realize exactly why you are supporting Obama. Bottom line is to have all these rights trump the right to life is simply selfish. If you vote for Obama because you think the economy will be better or because you will have better health policies then you are looking after yourself and denying a basic human right to thousands and thousands of Americans.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that many have become desensitized to abortion and what it does to a baby. If Obama was going to sign a law that declared people in wheel chairs would be put to death, would your list of social rights trump their lives too? I put forward this example because people are so desensitized they don't really consider the baby's right to life when it needs to be equal to those that are born rights. If you believe these social rights trump the right to life you are not voting for the good of all. You are voting for the good of some. That is selfish and is not inline with Catholic teaching.Theresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04866840456840793793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-73282334401279849782008-10-29T10:34:00.000-04:002008-10-29T10:34:00.000-04:00OBAMA IS NOT PRO-LIFE and by signing FOCA (which M...OBAMA IS NOT PRO-LIFE and by signing FOCA (which McCain opposes) will remove all conscience clauses for Catholic doctors, nurses, etc.<BR/>Wake up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-45564210587178723652008-10-28T21:41:00.000-04:002008-10-28T21:41:00.000-04:00Such as Sean?Domestic Social Development Legislati...<B>Such as Sean?</B><BR/><BR/>Domestic Social Development Legislation<BR/><BR/>The USCCB works to apply Catholic social teaching to domestic issues in the public policy arena by advocating on behalf of the poor and vulnerable on a wide range of legislative matters. The USCCB promotes family and child friendly policies, access to healthcare, reform of the welfare policies and addresses issues of poverty including housing and homelessness, hunger, labor and wage concerns. The USCCB works for the preservation of the environment with a particular emphasis on rural life issues. In addition, the USCCB monitors legislation dealing with individual dignity as governed by civil rights laws. We encourage you to visit the web site of the USCCB department of Domestic Social Development for more information. <BR/><BR/>Legislative Issues in the 110th Congress: <BR/><BR/>Access to Health Care:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation to expand health care coverage to the 45 million uninsured Americans; support legislation to improve the Medicaid program.<BR/><BR/>Assault Weapons Ban:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation to ban assault weapons.<BR/><BR/>Children’s Health and the Environment:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation that would fund research and track diseases to protect children, born and unborn, and other vulnerable populations, from environmental (indoors and outdoors) exposures that endanger their health.<BR/><BR/>Civil Rights:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation to address disparities resulting from unjust discrimination and bias in American life.<BR/><BR/>Criminal Justice:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation that will assist released prisoners and help to reduce recidivism; support legislation to increase investment in community-based juvenile crime prevention programs.<BR/><BR/>Death Penalty:<BR/><BR/>Oppose legislation to expand the death penalty at the federal level; support legislation to limit the use of the death penalty.<BR/><BR/>Faith-Based Initiative:<BR/><BR/>Continue support for financial assistance to Church related and other charities as well as incentives for contributing to those entities. (DSD staff will work with General Counsel on “Conscience Protection: Religious Integrity Issues.”)<BR/><BR/>Farm Bill Reauthorization:<BR/><BR/>Support full funding of programs, such as the Conservation Security Program, which reward farmers and ranchers who practice good stewardship and environmental protection on land that is in active production; support provisions to target federal payments and other forms of agricultural support to small and moderate-size farms, especially minority-owned farms, to help them through difficult times caused by changes in global agricultural markets or weather patterns that destroy crops; support provisions to protect farm workers in the area of pesticides and other health and safety issues; support legislation to promote rural development, including policies that encourage a wide range of economic, sustainable development strategies; support funding for and improvements in Food Stamps and other nutrition programs.<BR/><BR/>Farm Workers:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation that would provide better living and working conditions for migrant farm workers; support legislation to allow undocumented migrant farm workers to earn the right to permanent resident status, along with their spouses and minor children. (Migration and Refugee Services is the lead USCCB office on this issue.)<BR/><BR/>Food & Nutrition:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation to provide sufficient funding for the Women, Infant and Children’s program (WIC) together with needed program improvements to ensure all eligible families receive these benefits. (See above under “Farm Bill” for food stamps).<BR/><BR/>Housing:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation to establish a National Affordable Housing Trust Fund that would provide new resources to fund the development and maintenance of rental housing affordable to low income families; support legislation to end “predatory lending” practices that are discriminatory or put low income home buyers at a disadvantage; support legislation to reauthorize and improve homeless assistance programs “McKinney-Vento”.<BR/><BR/>Minimum Wage:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation for raising the minimum wage to help full-time workers support themselves and their families.<BR/><BR/>Social Security Reform:<BR/><BR/>Oppose social security “reform” legislation that would decrease the income of low income recipients.<BR/><BR/>State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) Reauthorization:<BR/><BR/>Support full funding and program improvements to the SCHIP program to provide access to health care for low income children. <BR/><BR/>TANF/Welfare Policy:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation for improvements to the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program to help low income families through policies that effectively support work, strengthen marriage and family life, and sustain the needy and vulnerable among us, especially children and immigrants.<BR/><BR/>Unemployment Insurance:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation to continue and improve federal unemployment insurance as needed.<BR/><BR/>Global Climate Change: (See International Justice and Peace priorities.)<BR/><BR/>Worker Protections:<BR/><BR/>Support legislation that would provide workers with paid sick leave; monitor legislation on labor law reform; oppose legislation that would erode work place protections including, but not limited to, the 40 hour work week, overtime, compensatory time, etc. <BR/><BR/>USCCB| 3211 4th Street, N.E., Washington DC 20017-1194 | (202) 541-3000 © USCCB. All rights reserved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-72096862680969014202008-10-28T21:35:00.000-04:002008-10-28T21:35:00.000-04:00If you want a buffet type religion where you get t...<I>If you want a buffet type religion where you get to pick and choose your ideology and moralality I suggest you look into one of the 33,000 Protestant religions.</I><BR/><BR/>Are you saying McCain and Palin have buffet style religions?Katherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13687197922675722032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-45904508009974610452008-10-28T19:32:00.000-04:002008-10-28T19:32:00.000-04:00To Whom it May concern: Please don't tell me to sa...To Whom it May concern: Please don't tell me to say a Hail Mary before posting when you propogate a candidate who says his first act as President will be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act. If you want a buffet type religion where you get to pick and choose your ideology and moralality I suggest you look into one of the 33,000 Protestant religions. I will be going to Eucharistic Adoration tomorrow, I will pray for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-37979918552072044932008-10-28T18:43:00.000-04:002008-10-28T18:43:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Rustler45https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889162663438444671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-19730381723645452402008-10-28T17:08:00.000-04:002008-10-28T17:08:00.000-04:00Such as Sean???????Such as Sean???????Theresehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04866840456840793793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-57654381667868404542008-10-28T17:03:00.000-04:002008-10-28T17:03:00.000-04:00A rather narrow list of Catholic concerns. Youhave...A rather narrow list of Catholic concerns. Youhave cheery picked some conservative causes and left out the many issues the bishops have spoken on that are not in line with the Republican Party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-3213839627611888752008-10-28T10:42:00.000-04:002008-10-28T10:42:00.000-04:00Let us look at the positions of the candidates: ...Let us look at the positions of the candidates:<BR/><BR/> Obama McCain<BR/><BR/>Embry.SSR Yes Yes<BR/>Abortion Yes No<BR/>Partial Birth Yes No<BR/>Infanticide Yes No<BR/>(botched abortions)<BR/>DOMA Favors Opposes<BR/><BR/>As anyone can see Obama is far less consistent with the Catholic Church teaching on matters of intrinsic evil. Do not be deceived by Obama. McCain is not exactly the perfect candidate either but he is much closer to the Church that Obama.FinishTheRacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04866468992070532617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-45286368283162386382008-10-27T01:34:00.000-04:002008-10-27T01:34:00.000-04:00Obama is a total FRAUD!Catholics should be ashamed...Obama is a total FRAUD!<BR/>Catholics should be ashamed!<BR/>Thats ok--VOte for Obama--<BR/>On Judgement day--<BR/>You will be Judged!<BR/>The Bishops have spoken--you have ignored!@Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-57547562964002817302008-10-26T15:50:00.000-04:002008-10-26T15:50:00.000-04:00KATHERINE: "Its just half a glass of Jim Beam befo...KATHERINE: "Its just half a glass of Jim Beam before supper. Its good for the circulation."<BR/><BR/>I guess I didn't read that closely enough. "...just a half a glass...." No wonder you're drunk most of the time. You improved your circulation a lot there Kat!Rustler45https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889162663438444671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-45244550212758622722008-10-26T14:32:00.000-04:002008-10-26T14:32:00.000-04:00It is clear that you folks don’t watch ETWN world ...It is clear that you folks don’t watch ETWN world over. This is just part of story and you on this blog are too lazy to do your own research… well except for some. If you will take the time to go to ETWN.com and World over archive you will find more on the subject that points out that Catholics cannot vote for people like Obama. The comments and stance of both candidates, and it is clear that you don’t want to know what the church has to say. <BR/><BR/>This will be our last chance if Obama is elected he will select the justices for the Supreme Court. If Obama is elected it is clear that he will appoint justices that are in favor of unrestricted abortions, including late term or partial birth abortion. Those of you who subscribe to or believe that by pursuing efforts to de-polarize the abortion debate and bring Americans of varying ideological backgrounds to the table to find common ground solutions are wrong. There is no middle ground. This is the human rights issue of this time. <BR/>If you as a catholic state that abortion is an unspeakable evil, yet you try to say that you can support the candidate (Obama) who supports the extreme view of allowing abortion at any stage of the pregnancy including birth I will submit you logic and your “well formed conscience” is not . I pray that your heart is softened and your eyes are open to this grave illness and that you rethink you view and vote for Obama.Michael Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17518836596538055801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-77563318440491174352008-10-26T14:29:00.000-04:002008-10-26T14:29:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Michael Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17518836596538055801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-16093479711316824762008-10-26T07:09:00.000-04:002008-10-26T07:09:00.000-04:00Talk about associating with terrorists. The ad is...Talk about associating with terrorists. The ad is paid for by the terrorist Randall Terry. The retired (and senile) bishop is working with a terrorist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-8012818956001626032008-10-25T22:16:00.000-04:002008-10-25T22:16:00.000-04:00FROM AD MAJOREM: Friday, October 24, 2008 U.S. Cat...FROM AD MAJOREM: <BR/><BR/>Friday, October 24, 2008 <BR/><BR/><B>U.S. Catholic Bishop Rene H. Gracida Releases Radio Ad Stating no Catholic can Vote for Barack Obama in Good Conscience <BR/><BR/>MEDIA ADVISORY, October 24 /Christian Newswire/ -- Today -</B> perhaps in an eleventh hour answer to prayer for the unborn - Bishop Rene H. Gracida has released a stunning radio ad concerning Catholics voting for Barack Obama. His ad is recorded in English and Spanish. Bishop Gracida boldly states: <BR/><BR/>"This is Bishop Rene H. Gracida, reminding all Catholics that they must vote in this election with an informed conscience. <B>A Catholic cannot be said to have voted in this election with a good conscience if they have voted for a pro-abortion candidate. Barack Hussein Obama is a pro-abortion candidate."</B>Rustler45https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889162663438444671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-52833275258356900472008-10-25T22:12:00.000-04:002008-10-25T22:12:00.000-04:00Kurt, you are a total lamebrain. Your comments are...Kurt, you are a total lamebrain. Your comments are nothing but assinine and indicate that you keep your head in a safe place. Safe from fresh air and sunlight. <BR/><BR/>You're definitely a case of "open your mouth and prove the fool." <BR/><BR/>You should just SHUT UP!Rustler45https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889162663438444671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-61191432946111603282008-10-25T22:05:00.000-04:002008-10-25T22:05:00.000-04:00KATHERINE: "Its just half a glass of Jim Beam befo...KATHERINE: "Its just half a glass of Jim Beam before supper. Its good for the circulation."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I have heard that one before.Rustler45https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889162663438444671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-74479125945178032252008-10-25T20:18:00.000-04:002008-10-25T20:18:00.000-04:00Rustler --Its just half a glass of Jim Beam before...Rustler --<BR/><BR/>Its just half a glass of Jim Beam before supper. Its good for the circulation. <BR/><BR/>KateKatherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13687197922675722032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-71888194639715586182008-10-25T18:55:00.000-04:002008-10-25T18:55:00.000-04:00Ya know Katherine if you lay off the cheap rot gut...Ya know Katherine if you lay off the cheap rot gut whiskey for a couple of weeks you'd see that you don't need to delete my posts and that I'm an OK guy.Rustler45https://www.blogger.com/profile/17889162663438444671noreply@blogger.com