tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post5149062509311152863..comments2023-10-09T09:36:13.099-04:00Comments on CATHOLICS FOR OBAMA BIDEN: DOWNFALL OF THE CATHOLIC RIGHTKatherinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13687197922675722032noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-54005979908476769442009-03-12T18:29:00.000-04:002009-03-12T18:29:00.000-04:00No one is defending Bush. You can't honestly admi...No one is defending Bush. You can't honestly admit that the attacks on him were bitter and<BR/>personal? I guess that behavior is only condemned when it is aimed at Obama. Double standard maybe?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-51886742178352961532009-03-12T12:53:00.000-04:002009-03-12T12:53:00.000-04:00Gee, just mention Bush in passing, and you can't s...Gee, just mention Bush in passing, and you can't stop yourself from Rush-ing to his defense.<BR/><BR/>A mismanaged war, a ruined economy, giveaways to oil companies, disregard for the environment and the rights of workers.<BR/><BR/>Just keep reminding the American voters how much you still are in line with Bush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-32013438308511091402009-03-12T12:38:00.000-04:002009-03-12T12:38:00.000-04:00A few comments: Generically dems beat reps by 6 pt...A few comments: Generically dems beat reps by 6 pts. in 2006 and by 10.5 pts. in 2008.<BR/><BR/>Reagan, after the recession of 1982, had a job approval rating of 41% and yet (2) years later he beat Mondale 59% to 41%. Why, because the voters still blamed Carter for the bad economy and Mondale was Carter light easily the worst pres candidate of the 20th century, I digress :) and Reagan had the power of incumbency!<BR/><BR/>Sooo, imo, just like Carter was a very weak pres and the reps used him as a whipping boy for the past (30) years, Bush, being a disastrous pres also, will be used by the dems for the next (30) years. And just like Carter lost a generation of voters to the reps, Bush has lost a generation of voters to the dems. Thanx George!<BR/><BR/>btw, just how does one take a job approval rating of 90% after 9/11 to @ 22% in some polls just before the 2008 election. And I quote Peggy Noonan, "George Bush has destroyed the republican party!" and unfortunately for the reps, there are no Reagan's on the horizon.<BR/><BR/>Yes indeed, the trend lines don't look good for reps ie younger voters and minorities and independents. Plus their base of evangelicals is shrinking and older voters will of course continue to dwindle as time passes.<BR/><BR/>According to census statistics, Hispanics will be the majority race in America by 2042. Be afraid, be very afraid ;)<BR/><BR/>but, but, but reps have Palin, Jindal, Boehner, Cantor, Bachmann, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coultergeist, Malkin, Beck, Savage etc. etc. to lead them out of the wilderness ... Oh the humanity! ;)<BR/><BR/>Oh I forgot Michael Steele lol<BR/><BR/>and reps, you do realize that a young, relatively inexperienced, bi-racial democrat got 53% of the vote in a country which has a history of 400 years of oppression towards African-Americans. Quite the sea change. There must have been many die hard reps who were counting on the Bradley Effect to help McCain eke out a win over Obama. Sorry!<BR/><BR/>Not only did Obama win, he won IN, VA and bleeping NC !!!<BR/><BR/>If the economy does improve and reps nominate Palin or Jindal in 2012 it will be 1984 all over again in reverse for the dems.<BR/><BR/>Interesting to note Reagan got 54.5 million votes in 1984 and Mondale got 37.5. Obama got 69.5 million and McCain got 60 million. so doing the quick math. McCain got 5.5 million more votes than Reagan, but Obama got (((32))) million more votes than Mondale. A shift/difference of 26.5 million votes between 1984 and 2008. Again, thanx George and thank you Obama for being the best candidate/campaigner since Ronald Reagan.<BR/><BR/>Did I mention all the trend lines are in the democrats favor!<BR/><BR/>It's kinda a catch-22 for the reps, if the economy improves a landslide for Obama in 2012 and if the economy doesn't improve, Obama may still win because many rep leaders ie Limbaugh ;) are rooting for Obama to fail and of course the whole country will fail if the economy continues to go south. Plus, presidential elections are all about the candidates and reps have Palin, Jindal etc. ie very weak candidates and Obama will have the power of incumbency. The ying and yang of politics.<BR/><BR/>In the past, the reps have always been more organized and united plus they had more money and the dems kept nominating god awful candidates like McGovern, Carter who barely won in 1976 after blowing a (30) pt. lead, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore and Kerry.<BR/><BR/>In 2008 the dems had more money, a better candidate, although as I said young, inexperienced and bi-racial and the past (8) years of Bush and his destroying of the economy to help Obama easily win.<BR/><BR/>Oh yes, this blog is Catholics for Obama/Biden ie separation of church and state people, separation of church and state!<BR/><BR/>Those founding fathers really had their **** together, eh :)<BR/><BR/>take care, blessings<BR/><BR/>p.s. fixednoise ie fox news should give Limbaugh his own prime time show, sure to be a ratings winner w/the far right wingnuts and also sure to keep the republicans in the minority for the next 20/30 years.<BR/><BR/>See, a win/win situation, I crack myself up!<BR/><BR/>ciaoshilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16490952508600134457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-3743708185503959472009-03-12T12:17:00.000-04:002009-03-12T12:17:00.000-04:00Kind of like the bitter, personal attacks on Bush,...Kind of like the bitter, personal attacks on Bush, Katherine?? This is hardly one-sided behavior!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-72627076192823589052009-03-12T08:48:00.000-04:002009-03-12T08:48:00.000-04:00If I can interject here.Most Americans of all poli...If I can interject here.<BR/><BR/>Most Americans of all political persuasions are usually fair and will give the new president a chance. However, in the present time, the conservative movement is divided between the fair-minded set (which seems to include Chairman Steele, but I think he could be a bit firmer) and those who have said they hope the President fails, or who are engaged in continued bitter, personal attacks on the President (easily found all over the internet). <BR/><BR/>This division within the conservative movement probably makes it impotent until it is resolved. There is tremendous good will and support for the President (apart from those obsessed about his middle name, questioning his place of birth, calling him a socialist or running a Phony FOCA campaign). But politically, he and the Democratic Party have an additional safety net should that good will cool. Namely that even if more mixed opinions emerge about him and the Democratic Party, the general public is horrified at the rhetoric and tactics of the right wing as well as their lack of substantive policy alternatives to the Administration.Katherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13687197922675722032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-18762406850512883682009-03-11T22:46:00.000-04:002009-03-11T22:46:00.000-04:00Betty,Americans of all political persuasions are u...Betty,<BR/><BR/>Americans of all political persuasions are usually fair and will give the new president a chance. Obama's popularity is about the same as George W. Bush's was in March of 2001.<BR/><BR/>If Obama's economic policies fail (and I hope they don't), Americans will try the Republicans again starting in 2010.<BR/><BR/>To say that they will be out of power for decades is simply nonsense.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647911379690432984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-84162552170155784862009-03-11T14:26:00.000-04:002009-03-11T14:26:00.000-04:00Sure 45 percent of the voters voted against Obama....Sure 45 percent of the voters voted against Obama. Since the election, Obama's approval rating has skyrocketed. Now only 28% disapprove. Rush Limbaugh has seized control of the GOP (Michael Steele is "too liberal" for them). They lost on the Stimulus, they lost on SCHIP, they lost on Lilly Ledbetter, they lost on the Omnibus. They lost on tobacco regulation. They lost on cotninuing the Iraq war. <BR/><BR/>Jindal was a disaster in his speech. Forget the voters, nowdays. Republicans are lucky if their own momma likes them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-44017299870179025432009-03-10T20:22:00.000-04:002009-03-10T20:22:00.000-04:00You are really laughable, Betty. The election res...You are really laughable, Betty. The election results were 52 to 45 percent. Does that make the Republicans dead for decades to come???? Johnson beat Goldwater 61 to 38. Now that was a landslide. Nixon beat McGovern 60 to 37. That, too, was a landslide. This past election hardly compares to those. 45 percent of the voters voted against Obama. That is hardly a small number and does not mean the right is dead. I would bet you anything that by 2010 even many of the people who voted for Obama will be fed up with him.....starting with the teacher's unions!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-14540438226460572942009-03-10T19:53:00.000-04:002009-03-10T19:53:00.000-04:00Yes, they are crass, arrogant, overly zealous, and...Yes, they are crass, arrogant, overly zealous, and many of them are meaner than junkyard dogs. I've tried all sorts of strategies to get them to abandon their destructive demeanor (after all they are still our brothers and sisters) but I've found that only makes them more adamant and strident. It seems that they want to feel persecuted and besieged. My sense is that they only feel fulfilled when drive more and more fellow Catholics away from the faith. It is very sad. I don't at all feel like laughing at people who seem to enjoy shooting themselves and each other in the foot, the leg, and sundry other body parts because in so doing they are destroying the Body of Christ - our Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-68178822754330887122009-03-10T18:14:00.000-04:002009-03-10T18:14:00.000-04:00Crass stuff like that is what has put them in the ...Crass stuff like that is what has put them in the sorry state they are in today.Katherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13687197922675722032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-58703290889732132612009-03-10T17:27:00.000-04:002009-03-10T17:27:00.000-04:00The Catholic News Agency published a report today ...The <A HREF="http://catholicnewsagency.com/" REL="nofollow">Catholic News Agency</A> published <A HREF="http://catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15322" REL="nofollow">a report today</A> of a dustup between Fr. Bernard Healy of the <A HREF="http://thericatholic.com/" REL="nofollow">Rhode Island Catholic</A> and <A HREF="http://www.catholics-united.org/" REL="nofollow">Catholics United</A>. <BR/><BR/>I don't know if the Catholic Right is in decline, but their still able to kick up some dirt.Paul Bradfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05909980933490841056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-7484580494934215172009-03-10T15:38:00.000-04:002009-03-10T15:38:00.000-04:00I said "McCain is history".Yep. And I said McCain...<B> I said "McCain is history".</B><BR/><BR/>Yep. And I said McCain and the whole Republican Party are history. it will be decades before they are a serious political force again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-1862603411254196592009-03-10T13:06:00.000-04:002009-03-10T13:06:00.000-04:00Betty, I guess you did not read my post carefully....Betty, I guess you did not read my post carefully. I said "McCain is history". I guess you are married to the Democratic party. I am not married to any party. My values and principles dictate how I vote. If a truely pro-life Democrat (actions with legislation reinforcement following his rhetoric) ran against a pro-abort or so-called pro-choice" Republican, I would not be voting for the Republican in that instance and would vote for the Democrat. <BR/><BR/>I don't see that happening since the radical left who embraces the culture of death will not support such a person. <BR/><BR/>Do you support the policies as indicated in my last post? Do you vote principle or party first?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-52728809104933406422009-03-10T12:32:00.000-04:002009-03-10T12:32:00.000-04:00Look, McCain is history Your whole Republican Part...<B>Look, McCain is history </B><BR/><BR/>Your whole Republican Party is history!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-8221917642625178442009-03-10T10:55:00.000-04:002009-03-10T10:55:00.000-04:00Sean said: "Yep, on ESCR, Obama has the same posi...Sean said: "Yep, on ESCR, Obama has the same position as John McCain.On the other hand he is advancing life by ending the war in Iraq, supporting health care for children and pregant women, protecting women from wage discrimination, and ending torture."<BR/><BR/>Obama is clearly more anti-life, just check out his NARAL record compared with McCain's. ESCR is the only item that destroys life that where they are similar. <BR/><BR/>The reality is:<BR/><BR/>getting rid of the conscience protection clause for healthcare workers, rescinding the Mexico City policy, federal funding of ESCR. I believe Obama is well ahead of McCain on the anti-life bandwagon. Look, McCain is history and I don't care to discuss him since he is not our president. <BR/><BR/>Also, with respect to the war, if Obama pulls out too quickly which he is already waffling on, because he knows he has to leave troops there too for a period of time longer than his promise; he is increasing the military presence in Afghanistan. Perhaps a few more lives will be lost there. You must be disappointed in him.<BR/><BR/>Where is the healthcare for the baby that is to be aborted? Last time I checked a baby is a child. The words healthcare and abortion do not belong together in the same sentence unless to show how they are diametrically opposed to one another. <BR/><BR/>Sean, do you agree with the federal funding of ESCR and the other anti-life measures I noted above?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-76768743762883616912009-03-10T10:01:00.000-04:002009-03-10T10:01:00.000-04:00Yep, on ESCR, Obama has the same position as John ...Yep, on ESCR, Obama has the same position as John McCain.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand he is advancing life by ending the war in Iraq, supporting health care for children and pregant women, protecting women from wage discrimination, and ending torture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-67556155588613182382009-03-10T09:35:00.000-04:002009-03-10T09:35:00.000-04:00Another anti-life measure by the new adminstration...Another anti-life measure by the new adminstration. Federal funding of ESSR.<BR/><BR/>How many anti-life measures is that now since he has taken the reigns?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-72951401834336555222009-03-09T20:36:00.000-04:002009-03-09T20:36:00.000-04:00Betty, as usual your retort is just brilliant. hah...Betty, as usual your retort is just brilliant. hahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-18236593322287402382009-03-09T20:20:00.000-04:002009-03-09T20:20:00.000-04:00And the brillant opposition:Quote of the day "Fran...And the brillant opposition:<BR/><BR/><B>Quote of the day</B><BR/> <BR/>"Frankly, federal funding of embryonic stem cell research can bring on embryo harvesting, perhaps even human cloning that occurs. We don't want that.... And certainly that is something that we ought to be talking about, but let's take care of business first. People are out of jobs."<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>-- Rep. Eric Cantor, (R-Va.) on CNNAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-85425735465267092572009-03-09T20:05:00.000-04:002009-03-09T20:05:00.000-04:00Throwing Brownback, Steele, McCain and everyone el...Throwing Brownback, Steele, McCain and everyone else under the bus, Susan? Pretty soon it will be just you and Rush. hahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8009484025319372088.post-12675722836493689472009-03-09T17:47:00.000-04:002009-03-09T17:47:00.000-04:00Narrow world as in narrow gate, Katherine? Where ...Narrow world as in narrow gate, Katherine? Where have I heard that term "narrow gate" before?? Oh, yes, from the mouth of Jesus Christ. He is the one you should follow. Not Barack "Mr. I support creating embryos to kill them" Obama. The right is far from dead, Katherine. I would not be so confident if I were you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com